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-====  Friday 3rd October 2014  ==== 
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-**Next meeting at 1pm-2pm CEST, 2pm-3pm WEST, 8am-9am EDT** 
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 ====  Friday 26th September 2014  ==== ====  Friday 26th September 2014  ====
  
-[[http://​piratepad.be/​p/​lgmag-vol2issue3 Notes]] +[[http://​piratepad.be/​p/​lgmag-vol2issue3 ​Notes]]
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-Sep 26 14:39:16 * luluganeta (c3178f47@gateway/​web/​freenode/​ip.195.23.143.71) has joined #​libregraphicsmag +
-Sep 26 14:39:23 <​luluganeta>​ hi everyone! +
-Sep 26 14:40:15 <​gingercoons>​ hey! +
-Sep 26 14:41:18 <​luluganeta>​ gingercoons:​ been meaning to ping you on this, but apparently we'll run into each other at MozFest? :-) +
-Sep 26 14:41:25 <​gingercoons>​ oh,​ yeah +
-Sep 26 14:41:28 <​luluganeta>​ this time it's just me going, though: They could only fund one of us +
-Sep 26 14:41:53 <​gingercoons>​ aw. really? I thought the funding was supposed to be up to $1500 or something +
-Sep 26 14:42:08 <​luluganeta>​ meh +
-Sep 26 14:42:30 <​gingercoons>​ and if I remember right, this is your last minecraft type workshop? +
-Sep 26 14:42:40 <​aiscarvalho>​ first and last +
-Sep 26 14:42:46 <​luluganeta>​ pft,​ yeah. The Microsoft news were really disheartening +
-Sep 26 14:42:55 <​gingercoons>​ oh,​ I thought you'd done some already +
-Sep 26 14:43:16 <​luluganeta>​ anyway,​ we now know RMS is right on the whole not free = not goof +
-Sep 26 14:43:19 <​luluganeta>​ *good +
-Sep 26 14:43:20 <​gingercoons>​ it is unfortunate that it ended up being Microsoft. +
-Sep 26 14:43:55 <​luluganeta>​ well any data-gathering corp would have been bad anyways, and it's going to be an interesting discussion +
-Sep 26 14:44:10 <​luluganeta>​ I really remember you mentioning this kind of special status that Minecraft enjoyed amongst the libre crowd +
-Sep 26 14:44:11 <​gingercoons>​ for sure +
-Sep 26 14:44:39 <​luluganeta>​ It'​s going to be interesting now to see how free culture orgs that use it are going to proceed +
-Sep 26 14:44:40 <​gingercoons>​ yeah. lots of people who like libre were really into Minecraft, and sort of gave it a pass, even though it was proprietary +
-Sep 26 14:44:52 <​luluganeta>​ there'​s always Minetest now :-) +
-Sep 26 14:45:02 <​gingercoons>​ true. it's also had huge uptake in education, which is going to be interesting +
-Sep 26 14:46:34 <​gingercoons>​ hm. yeah. I've heard of Minetest, but haven'​t really checked it out +
-Sep 26 14:50:28 <​ms-studio>​ hi all, chiming in. +
-Sep 26 14:50:39 * juego (~juego@ip-83-101-52-234.customer.schedom-europe.net) has joined #​libregraphicsmag +
-Sep 26 14:50:52 <​gingercoons>​ hey,​ ms-studio, hey juego +
-Sep 26 14:51:04 <​aiscarvalho>​ hi! +
-Sep 26 14:51:19 <​juego>​ hey +
-Sep 26 14:51:46 <​juego>​ Hello everyone :) +
-Sep 26 14:51:54 <​ms-studio>​ minecraft type workshop? by ana + ricardo? +
-Sep 26 14:52:48 <​aiscarvalho>​ yes +
-Sep 26 14:53:37 <​aiscarvalho>​ http://​piratepad.be/​p/​lgmag-vol2issue3 +
-Sep 26 14:54:33 <​aiscarvalho>​ should we wait 5 more minutes or get started? +
-Sep 26 14:54:52 <​gingercoons>​ maybe wait? Antonio isn't here yet +
-Sep 26 14:55:28 <​ms-studio>​ then we have some time for smalltalk :) +
-Sep 26 14:55:32 <​ms-studio>​ how was the summer? +
-Sep 26 14:55:50 <​juego>​ Good :) +
-Sep 26 14:56:00 <​aiscarvalho>​ oh,​ I understood he could only join us if the meeting was yesterday +
-Sep 26 14:56:16 <​gingercoons>​ oh,​ got it. sorry. wasn't very attentive with my emails +
-Sep 26 14:56:33 <​ms-studio>​ alright then let's start. +
-Sep 26 14:57:11 <​luluganeta>​ ready here +
-Sep 26 14:57:22 <​gingercoons>​ k +
-Sep 26 14:57:38 <​ms-studio>​ status of the issue, list of missing content, calendar for production. +
-Sep 26 14:57:54 <​aiscarvalho>​ this is the list of content: https://​gitorious.org/​libregraphicsmag/​vol2issue3/​source/​c1282708a099f653e3f3629d604945a858e6eb36:​runningorder.txt#​L8 +
-Sep 26 14:58:54 <​gingercoons>​ from a glance at that running order, it looks to me as if there are actually a lot of things planned, which could probably take up more pages than they'​re currently allotted. +
-Sep 26 14:59:46 <​aiscarvalho>​ sure +
-Sep 26 14:59:48 <​ms-studio>​ yes. there are also a couple things that were talked about but not ready, such as Sol Mata's contribution +
-Sep 26 15:00:01 <​aiscarvalho>​ maybe we make a list of what is missing and who will take care of it +
-Sep 26 15:00:06 <​gingercoons>​ right. and I don't think I'll get anything on colour type from Chris +
-Sep 26 15:00:23 <​gingercoons>​ so we need to think about a new "best of" +
-Sep 26 15:01:05 <​luluganeta>​ +1 +
-Sep 26 15:01:14 <​gingercoons>​ I also think we could productively move some of the things currently listed as features elsewhere, since we normally only run three features per issue +
-Sep 26 15:01:18 <​ms-studio>​ also,​ missing in the running order is the lengthy interview with Dave Crossland +
-Sep 26 15:01:44 <​gingercoons>​ how lengthy is the interview with Dave? +
-Sep 26 15:02:04 <​ms-studio>​ it'​s covering many important projects - metapolator,​ prototypo, kernagic, ttfautohint - so i think its a good feature. +
-Sep 26 15:02:31 <​ms-studio>​ current raw transcript is 3544 words +
-Sep 26 15:02:35 <​luluganeta>​ Ana has finished the transcript of Micah'​s interview, I edited 2/3 of it +
-Sep 26 15:02:47 <​gingercoons>​ which item is that one for? +
-Sep 26 15:03:00 <​gingercoons>​ is that the League of Movable Type? +
-Sep 26 15:03:09 <​ms-studio>​ oh,​ great. +
-Sep 26 15:03:23 <​ms-studio>​ you could already push it into texts/​preedit ? +
-Sep 26 15:04:19 <​luluganeta>​ yes,​ League +
-Sep 26 15:04:28 <​luluganeta>​ will do! +
-Sep 26 15:04:31 <​aiscarvalho>​ not yet, we need to check first with the interviewee +
-Sep 26 15:04:31 <​gingercoons>​ we need to think a little bit about what to do with all of that. maybe we could cut down the one with Dave and turn it into a dispatch? +
-Sep 26 15:04:48 <​aiscarvalho>​ or turn the tools part into a best of? +
-Sep 26 15:05:24 * jceb (~jceb@2001:​6f8:​900:​8e46:​8a53:​2eff:​fe91:​4709) has joined #​libregraphicsmag +
-Sep 26 15:05:29 <​gingercoons>​ the tools part of the interview with Dave, you mean? +
-Sep 26 15:05:55 <​aiscarvalho>​ yes +
-Sep 26 15:06:27 <​aiscarvalho>​ metapolator,​ prototypo, kernagic, ttfautohint +
-Sep 26 15:06:38 <​gingercoons>​ that'​s a good idea. we could just pull that stuff out, write it up, and ask if he's comfortable with us running it under his byline. +
-Sep 26 15:06:51 <​aiscarvalho>​ we featured kernagic in the last issue, as part of the Interactivos?​13 section +
-Sep 26 15:06:58 <​gingercoons>​ true +
-Sep 26 15:07:11 <​gingercoons>​ but the other three, we could definitely run as a best of +
-Sep 26 15:07:24 <​aiscarvalho>​ that would solve the section +
-Sep 26 15:07:24 <​gingercoons>​ or as a small & useful if any of them are actually small +
-Sep 26 15:08:01 <​gingercoons>​ yeah. so they'd be "best of type finessing tools" or something?​ +
-Sep 26 15:08:38 <​luluganeta>​ Since many of them are still under active development and not at 1.0, maybe something that highlights their upcoming nature? +
-Sep 26 15:08:49 <​luluganeta>​ e.g. "The type tools you'll be using tomorrow"​ +
-Sep 26 15:08:50 <​ms-studio>​ maybe,​ but Dave talks about those projects placing them into the broader vision of the libre type software landscape. read it first :) +
-Sep 26 15:09:12 <​ms-studio>​ some parts may work "​standalone",​ some not. +
-Sep 26 15:09:19 <​gingercoons>​ dave is very strong on vision. +
-Sep 26 15:09:40 <​gingercoons>​ but I do also hesitate about running too much of him. some of our stuff often looks like we always go back to the same few people +
-Sep 26 15:10:12 <​gingercoons>​ giving up too many pages to a lengthy interview with him doesn'​t do a lot to make us look like we actually capture a diversity of libre design experiences and practitioners +
-Sep 26 15:10:13 <​ms-studio>​ on the other hand, a page or two with "​objective"​ list and description of libre type tools would be great. +
-Sep 26 15:10:32 <​ms-studio>​ so that could be the best of pages. +
-Sep 26 15:11:52 <​juego>​ i tend to agree on being careful of the "​diversity perception"​ implied by the mag +
-Sep 26 15:12:39 <​juego>​ But this is a "​font"​ issue. So not having Dave would be weird ;) +
-Sep 26 15:13:01 <​gingercoons>​ we ran a column from Dave for our whole first volume, so a lot of his larger themes are already included in the magazine. I know the recent stuff has changed, but I think that could be encompassed by something like a "Best of" run under his byline +
-Sep 26 15:13:55 <​aiscarvalho>​ I checked the New Releases and it also features: metapolator,​ ttfautohint and prototypo +
-Sep 26 15:14:06 <​aiscarvalho>​ https://​gitorious.org/​libregraphicsmag/​vol2issue3/​source/​c1282708a099f653e3f3629d604945a858e6eb36:​texts/​preedit/​new-releases.txt +
-Sep 26 15:14:16 <​gingercoons>​ which applies equally to Frank, whose work I also really enjoy. does he need to be in both the features and the showcase? +
-Sep 26 15:14:48 <​gingercoons>​ so maybe we take those three items out of the new releases and devote a section to them instead? +
-Sep 26 15:14:59 <​luluganeta>​ I'​m for that solution +
-Sep 26 15:15:11 <​aiscarvalho>​ +1 +
-Sep 26 15:15:13 <​luluganeta>​ (shift them to a new section) +
-Sep 26 15:15:22 <​luluganeta>​ there'​s other things to fill new releases +
-Sep 26 15:15:26 <​luluganeta>​ especially non-type stuff +
-Sep 26 15:15:33 <​ms-studio>​ ok for moving them to a new section. +
-Sep 26 15:15:37 <​gingercoons>​ it'​s better billing for them than to just be stuck in with a mishmash of new releases +
-Sep 26 15:17:12 <​gingercoons>​ so,​ in the showcase at the moment, we have four things, all allotted two pages. can any of those things stretch to three or four pages? +
-Sep 26 15:17:57 <​aiscarvalho>​ probably +
-Sep 26 15:18:03 <​ms-studio>​ yes,​ certainly +
-Sep 26 15:18:15 <​aiscarvalho>​ but we don't have many images in the asset'​s folder +
-Sep 26 15:18:29 <​gingercoons>​ oh,​ sorry, five. cool. so if we could get each of those, or at least most of them, to three pages, we'd be set +
-Sep 26 15:18:39 <​gingercoons>​ okay. so do we need to then ask those people for more images? +
-Sep 26 15:18:49 <​ms-studio>​ yes,​ definitely. +
-Sep 26 15:19:06 <​ms-studio>​ i didn't get feedback from my request to pippin +
-Sep 26 15:19:14 <​gingercoons>​ did he send you anything? +
-Sep 26 15:19:25 * hellocatfood (~hellocatf@149.254.183.48) has joined #​libregraphicsmag +
-Sep 26 15:19:31 <​aiscarvalho>​ hellocatfood,​ hi! +
-Sep 26 15:19:36 <​hellocatfood>​ Hey! +
-Sep 26 15:19:44 <​aiscarvalho>​ great you could join :) +
-Sep 26 15:19:45 <​hellocatfood>​ I'​m currently on a train so can talk for a little bit +
-Sep 26 15:19:47 <​gingercoons>​ hey,​ hellocatfoo +
-Sep 26 15:19:55 <​hellocatfood>​ hey gingercoons aiscarvalho :-) +
-Sep 26 15:20:04 <​ms-studio>​ hi Antonio! +
-Sep 26 15:20:04 <​aiscarvalho>​ ms-studio,​ what did you ask pippin? +
-Sep 26 15:20:05 <​luluganeta>​ should we place "​pester pippin"​ on the TODO then? +
-Sep 26 15:20:49 <​gingercoons>​ Brendan should be pretty easy to get more images from, I assume. he's good at documenting his work. +
-Sep 26 15:21:53 <​ms-studio>​ i asked pippin about images for the 0xA000 family +
-Sep 26 15:22:13 <​ms-studio>​ just find that he sent me three images, pre-LGM, and wanted to provide more afterwards +
-Sep 26 15:23:05 <​ms-studio>​ so,​ yes, re-contact pippin to obtain more material (also of the editor he showcased). +
-Sep 26 15:24:40 <​ms-studio>​ and yes, obtaining more material from Brendan shouldn'​t be complicated. +
-Sep 26 15:24:56 <​ms-studio>​ with Frank, it's a bit more complicated +
-Sep 26 15:25:43 <​ms-studio>​ i think the "map of free foundries"​ is a nice idea but execution needs more work. dont' find it fit for print as is. +
-Sep 26 15:26:31 <​luluganeta>​ maybe a list of *some* free foundries?​ +
-Sep 26 15:26:32 <​ms-studio>​ his second contribution is a short 165 words manifesto, "​Extending voices"​. also not sure how this can fit in. +
-Sep 26 15:27:04 <​gingercoons>​ 165 words is definitely too short for a feature +
-Sep 26 15:27:32 <​hellocatfood>​ Ack,​ my connection'​s gonna go in a moment (massive tunnel coming up). I'm aware that my article is still unfinished (really sorry, I'm lame). +
-Sep 26 15:27:33 <​hellocatfood>​ I'​ll speak to you all soon. +
-Sep 26 15:27:33 <​ms-studio>​ indeed,​ could be more interesting as a list (which he has compiled in the credits.txt) +
-Sep 26 15:27:38 * hellocatfood has quit (Quit: Leaving.) +
-Sep 26 15:27:40 <​gingercoons>​ maybe he could compile the two together somehow an work on his execution a bit +
-Sep 26 15:29:13 <​ms-studio>​ and yes, gathering the essence of Dave's interview on two pages as "​Future Type Tools" sounds good. +
-Sep 26 15:29:25 <​ms-studio>​ title matches perfectly +
-Sep 26 15:29:38 <​luluganeta>​ i like that +
-Sep 26 15:29:42 <​gingercoons>​ cool +
-Sep 26 15:29:50 <​ms-studio>​ ginger,​ yes, i can propose that to him. +
-Sep 26 15:30:00 <​gingercoons>​ I think jeugo'​s piece is easily long enough to stretch to three pages, when laid out +
-Sep 26 15:30:01 <​aiscarvalho>​ if there'​s a skeleton of Frank'​s the map I can work the graphics a bit +
-Sep 26 15:30:46 <​aiscarvalho>​ gingercoons,​ what is the status of Antonio'​s column? I saw it was in pre-edit but we just said it was unfinished +
-Sep 26 15:30:55 <​aiscarvalho>​ *he just said +
-Sep 26 15:31:14 <​gingercoons>​ yeah. I think there'​s an early version of the text, but he wanted to work more on it +
-Sep 26 15:31:20 <​gingercoons>​ I can be in touch with him about that +
-Sep 26 15:31:57 <​juego>​ If necessary, I can see to make some more images for my article, maybe. +
-Sep 26 15:32:25 <​ms-studio>​ ana (on reworking the map): yes, would be lovely. actually the idea was to have it as the "​centerfold"​ piece, so it should be graphically nice enough to frame on the wall... +
-Sep 26 15:32:56 <​aiscarvalho>​ I can work on it and email Frank an edited version; I'll check the files in the repo +
-Sep 26 15:33:36 <​luluganeta>​ taking into account that we're moving to rush mode +
-Sep 26 15:33:39 <​ms-studio>​ About the showcas, ASCII art and Samuel Rivers-Moore:​ yes, certainly putting them on three pages would be good. +
-Sep 26 15:34:02 <​gingercoons>​ juego,​ that might be useful. with good, large images, we can do a layout that basically clocks in at ~300 words/​page +
-Sep 26 15:34:43 <​gingercoons>​ so if we could get four pages out of Brendan, we'd have a full showcase +
-Sep 26 15:34:50 <​aiscarvalho>​ Do we have anything from ASCII art and Samuel Rivers-Moore?​ +
-Sep 26 15:35:45 <​aiscarvalho>​ ms-studio,​ can you go through the running order and tick what we have to get from authors? +
-Sep 26 15:36:00 <​ms-studio>​ yes +
-Sep 26 15:36:00 <​juego>​ gingercoons,​ ok will see what I can do. +
-Sep 26 15:36:09 <​gingercoons>​ cool. thanks, juego +
-Sep 26 15:36:20 * luluganeta gently reminds there'​s 25minutes left +
-Sep 26 15:37:30 <​gingercoons>​ shall we start going through the list and putting names down on who needs/wants to take care of getting individual items? +
-Sep 26 15:37:34 <​aiscarvalho>​ can we focus on what content we're missing and who'll be responsible for it? +
-Sep 26 15:37:50 <​ms-studio>​ yes,​ existing/​missing content +
-Sep 26 15:38:09 <​aiscarvalho>​ while we don't have texts + images doesn'​t really matter how many pages we want to use for article X or section Y +
-Sep 26 15:38:35 <​ms-studio>​ from Alexei, we have a short article. we need to get some illustrations still. i will follow up. +
-Sep 26 15:38:52 <​gingercoons>​ but it's a pretty appropriate length for a dispatch +
-Sep 26 15:38:54 <​luluganeta>​ which articles/​sections are we totally missing at the moment? are we at risk of not getting content that we were expecting?​ +
-Sep 26 15:39:22 <​ms-studio>​ yes,​ for Sol Mata it appears she didn't have time to write. +
-Sep 26 15:39:42 <​luluganeta>​ should we cross that out? +
-Sep 26 15:39:52 <​ms-studio>​ yes,​ i think so. +
-Sep 26 15:40:16 <​ms-studio>​ regarding Eric's column, he also doesn'​t have time and suggested to use one of his articles from the i.liketightpants.net blog +
-Sep 26 15:40:36 <​ms-studio>​ those articles are longer than column format and could fill a feature. +
-Sep 26 15:40:56 <​aiscarvalho>​ is there an alternative?​ +
-Sep 26 15:41:15 <​aiscarvalho>​ I'​m not sure if we should fit an article from Eric's blog into a column for the magazine +
-Sep 26 15:41:30 <​luluganeta>​ publishing past blog posts is a bit unsatisfying,​ I'd call on that possibility as a very last resource +
-Sep 26 15:41:44 <​luluganeta>​ I'​d prefer he'd adapt an existing article than running something that had been up +
-Sep 26 15:41:53 <​luluganeta>​ *existing blogpost +
-Sep 26 15:42:18 <​gingercoons>​ agreed. columns are really meant to be new content, responding to the theme of the issue in some way +
-Sep 26 15:43:19 <​juego>​ +1 +
-Sep 26 15:43:42 <​luluganeta>​ in that case, we do have a problem in getting content on time for the column +
-Sep 26 15:43:50 <​gingercoons>​ don'​t really know how to proceed with this one, though. if he says he doesn'​t have time, we have a problem +
-Sep 26 15:43:57 <​ms-studio>​ ok,​ so do you agree on: adapting existing Eric blogpost into ... feature? +
-Sep 26 15:44:31 <​aiscarvalho>​ do you have a specific article in mind? +
-Sep 26 15:45:28 <​gingercoons>​ I don't think we should dig up content that way. unless there'​s a really compelling thematic reason to adapt something that's already been published elsewhere, I tend to think that we can find other, resourceful ways to fill sections +
-Sep 26 15:45:47 <​ms-studio>​ for Eric's proposals, see here: https://​gitorious.org/​libregraphicsmag/​vol2issue3/​source/​c1282708a099f653e3f3629d604945a858e6eb36:​texts/​preedit/​Eric-Schrijver.txt +
-Sep 26 15:47:32 <​juego>​ The article that stirkes me in Eric's proposition is the one about "​version numbers for typefaces"​ +
-Sep 26 15:47:41 <​juego>​ http://​i.liketightpants.net/​and/​release-early-release-often-version-numbers-for-typefaces +
-Sep 26 15:48:01 <​ms-studio>​ ginger,​ do you have anything particular in mind that would fill the gaps? +
-Sep 26 15:48:20 <​luluganeta>​ I feel okay with adapting a post since the alternative is nothing at all +
-Sep 26 15:48:20 <​gingercoons>​ which particular gaps are we talking about? +
-Sep 26 15:48:35 <​juego>​ I haven'​t read it all. But I've seen Nathan Willis complain on twitter about Google releasing yet another updated version of one of their open typeface without numbering it. +
-Sep 26 15:48:47 <​gingercoons>​ if he can cut down a post and change it significantly enough that it doesn'​t have the same content as his blog post, fine +
-Sep 26 15:49:04 <​aiscarvalho>​ oh,​ Nathan offered his help for this issue: reviewing, editing (small things) +
-Sep 26 15:49:38 <​aiscarvalho>​ So I can email him if we need his help for something +
-Sep 26 15:49:56 <​juego>​ Maybe he could make a rewrite of Eric's article and insert his rant on Google in it. Would love to read that ;) +
-Sep 26 15:50:00 <​gingercoons>​ right,​ awesome. he'll be a good resource +
-Sep 26 15:50:03 <​luluganeta>​ +1 on editing blogpost +
-Sep 26 15:50:07 <​aiscarvalho>​ :​) +
-Sep 26 15:50:15 <​gingercoons>​ so is Eric willing to edit one of his posts down? +
-Sep 26 15:50:37 <​luluganeta>​ I can step forward to work with Eric on the editing process +
-Sep 26 15:50:37 <​ms-studio>​ yes,​ he asked "I wondered if one of my existing blog posts could be a good departure points"​ +
-Sep 26 15:51:08 <​ms-studio>​ and if you agree, we can point him towards the version numbering topic: http://​i.liketightpants.net/​and/​release-early-release-often-version-numbers-for-typefaces +
-Sep 26 15:51:12 <​gingercoons>​ good. that's fine, then +
-Sep 26 15:51:14 <​luluganeta>​ +1 on that +
-Sep 26 15:51:21 <​ms-studio>​ good. +
-Sep 26 15:51:55 <​gingercoons>​ ms-studio,​ which blanks in the running order in particular were you concerned about? +
-Sep 26 15:52:01 <​aiscarvalho>​ ms-studio you'll email Nathan about that then? +
-Sep 26 15:52:47 <​ms-studio>​ ginger,​ i thought we were about to cancel eric's contribution. +
-Sep 26 15:52:47 * eimai has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) +
-Sep 26 15:52:48 <​gingercoons>​ wait. what are we emailing Nathan about? +
-Sep 26 15:53:02 * eimai (~eimai@175.186-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #​libregraphicsmag +
-Sep 26 15:53:07 <​gingercoons>​ of course not. we need his column. we'd only have one column if we didn't have his +
-Sep 26 15:53:14 <​ms-studio>​ for nathan, i think he can step in when texts are ready for proofing ? +
-Sep 26 15:53:21 <​aiscarvalho>​ ah,​ ok +
-Sep 26 15:53:22 <​luluganeta>​ wait I'm confused +
-Sep 26 15:53:26 <​aiscarvalho>​ thanks,​ I was confused +
-Sep 26 15:53:32 <​luluganeta>​ i didn't get that idea and just read about nathan regarding a tweet +
-Sep 26 15:53:36 <​gingercoons>​ I'​ll happily deal with Nathan, since he's offered to be involved in the editing step +
-Sep 26 15:53:44 <​aiscarvalho>​ so you'll propose Eric to re-write version numbers for typefaces +
-Sep 26 15:54:50 <​luluganeta>​ can we maybe discuss Eric first, Nathan after? I got really lost in this now +
-Sep 26 15:55:34 <​ms-studio>​ Regarding Eric: agreed from my side to propose him this adaptation of his article into column. +
-Sep 26 15:55:35 <​gingercoons>​ the rundown, as I understand it, is that we're asking Eric to do a column based on the blog post Julien highlighted. +
-Sep 26 15:55:43 <​luluganeta>​ are we considering dropping Eric's column? Did he make it clear he cannot contribute at all? Can't we find a way to make that work? +
-Sep 26 15:55:46 <​luluganeta>​ okay,​ got it +
-Sep 26 15:56:16 <​gingercoons>​ I believe ms-studio said he was going to follow up with Eric on that +
-Sep 26 15:56:36 <​ms-studio>​ yes,​ since i was in talks with Eric, i'm following this up. +
-Sep 26 15:56:36 <​luluganeta>​ excellent +
-Sep 26 15:56:46 <​aiscarvalho>​ great +
-Sep 26 15:56:54 <​gingercoons>​ awesome +
-Sep 26 15:57:20 <​ms-studio>​ next,​ the planned part with Ale hasn't been done, wasn't able to catch up with him this summer. +
-Sep 26 15:57:22 <​gingercoons>​ as far as Nathan is concerned, he offered (I can't remember whether it was in person, by email, or over twitter) to help out with editing +
-Sep 26 15:58:00 <​aiscarvalho>​ (Nathan:​ offered help in a direct email to the three of us) +
-Sep 26 15:58:48 <​ms-studio>​ (Yes,​ as soon are texts are beyond the Pre-edit stage we can ask Nathan to read and help improve) +
-Sep 26 15:59:19 <​gingercoons>​ (oh,​ don't worry about editing. I'll handle it.) +
-Sep 26 15:59:35 <​gingercoons>​ (including getting Nathan involved) +
-Sep 26 15:59:43 <​ms-studio>​ (great) +
-Sep 26 16:00:08 <​gingercoons>​ so,​ we're basically at time. a couple urgent things to cover: when can we set as deadline for having all pre-edits and images in? +
-Sep 26 16:00:35 <​aiscarvalho>​ and what are the blank spots we need to cover? +
-Sep 26 16:00:45 <​luluganeta>​ I will post the first edit of League interview tomorrow morning +
-Sep 26 16:01:15 <​gingercoons>​ blank spots: notebook, pro bono ad, articles currently marked as "​missing"​ +
-Sep 26 16:01:16 <​ms-studio>​ blank spot: p.19-21, in practice/​dispatch,​ not done +
-Sep 26 16:01:16 <​luluganeta>​ scratch that -- need to send it first to Micah before committing it +
-Sep 26 16:02:11 <​gingercoons>​ will the Ale article not happen, then? +
-Sep 26 16:02:44 <​ms-studio>​ I can relaunch him today and check. +
-Sep 26 16:03:46 <​aiscarvalho>​ great +
-Sep 26 16:03:51 <​gingercoons>​ I'​d really like to set some target dates before we all leave this meeting. +
-Sep 26 16:04:15 <​aiscarvalho>​ agree +
-Sep 26 16:04:17 <​gingercoons>​ shall we work backwards from a projected release date? +
-Sep 26 16:04:33 <​aiscarvalho>​ can be +
-Sep 26 16:05:04 <​aiscarvalho>​ 3rd of November as a launch date +
-Sep 26 16:05:21 <​aiscarvalho>​ is it feasible? +
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-Sep 26 16:06:43 * Now talking on #​libregraphicsmag +
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-Sep 26 16:06:49 <​aiscarvalho>​ sorry,​ I lost connection +
-Sep 26 16:06:57 <​gingercoons>​ launch on November 3rd, as in have it printed and available by then? +
-Sep 26 16:07:07 <​ms-studio>​ how many hours do you estimate for the layout? +
-Sep 26 16:07:19 <​aiscarvalho>​ fours days once we have everythin +
-Sep 26 16:07:24 <​aiscarvalho>​ *everything +
-Sep 26 16:07:31 * luluganeta (c3178f47@gateway/​web/​freenode/​ip.195.23.143.71) has joined #​libregraphicsmag +
-Sep 26 16:07:35 <​gingercoons>​ how long at the printer? +
-Sep 26 16:07:41 <​aiscarvalho>​ 1 week +
-Sep 26 16:07:44 <​aiscarvalho>​ 5 weekdays +
-Sep 26 16:08:02 <​luluganeta>​ ouch,​ bad conference internet here +
-Sep 26 16:08:09 <​ms-studio>​ on my side i'm not able to have 4 continuous days. more like 1-2 days per week. +
-Sep 26 16:08:09 <​gingercoons>​ k. so that's at the printer on 27 october, then? +
-Sep 26 16:08:24 <​aiscarvalho>​ yes +
-Sep 26 16:08:32 <​ms-studio>​ next full day i can schedule (for production sprint) is oct 13. +
-Sep 26 16:10:19 <​gingercoons>​ I suggest this:     3rd October: Cover + Backcover +
-Sep 26 16:10:19 <​gingercoons>​  ​   10 October: All texts in preedit folder +
-Sep 26 16:10:19 <​gingercoons>​  ​   16 October: All images in assets folder +
-Sep 26 16:10:19 <​gingercoons>​  ​   20 October: Start layout +
-Sep 26 16:10:19 <​gingercoons>​  ​   27 October: Deliver to printer +
-Sep 26 16:10:19 <​gingercoons>​  ​   3rd November: launch +
-Sep 26 16:10:20 <​luluganeta>​ ms-studio:​ so you can't work on this for the next two weeks? +
-Sep 26 16:10:47 <​luluganeta>​ start layout at 17, since on the 23rd i head to mozfest +
-Sep 26 16:10:48 <​aiscarvalho>​ we can start layout on 17th Oct +
-Sep 26 16:10:59 <​ms-studio>​ only marginally, extremely packed schedule. a few hours here and there. +
-Sep 26 16:11:06 <​gingercoons>​ okay. all of the texts might not be ready yet by then +
-Sep 26 16:11:13 <​luluganeta>​ ok,​ we really need to go forward in the meantime +
-Sep 26 16:11:24 <​gingercoons>​ work is crazy for me right now, so all I have are weekends. I've blocked in two weekends of editing +
-Sep 26 16:11:24 <​luluganeta>​ i really have to leave atm +
-Sep 26 16:11:37 <​aiscarvalho>​ conference break and we need to leave the room/wifi +
-Sep 26 16:11:39 <​gingercoons>​ likewise. +
-Sep 26 16:11:40 <​luluganeta>​ sorry for this, but we're in a conference +
-Sep 26 16:11:48 <​aiscarvalho>​ let'​s IRC meet next Friday? +
-Sep 26 16:11:50 <​luluganeta>​ let'​s please schedule a second meeting +
-Sep 26 16:12:03 <​gingercoons>​ another doodle poll, or shall we just do the same time? +
-Sep 26 16:12:05 <​aiscarvalho>​ or Tuesday +
-Sep 26 16:12:09 <​luluganeta>​ doodle please! +
-Sep 26 16:12:09 <​ms-studio>​ ok. i reserve anyway monday 13th. layout can already begin on Julien'​s + Loraines articles. +
-Sep 26 16:12:20 <​luluganeta>​ have to run now +
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-Sep 26 16:12:29 <​aiscarvalho>​ me too, sorry +
-Sep 26 16:12:34 <​aiscarvalho>​ please leave notes in the pad +
-Sep 26 16:12:39 <​aiscarvalho>​ and log the rest of IRC +
-Sep 26 16:12:47 <​aiscarvalho>​ let'​s continue by email +
-Sep 26 16:12:48 <​ms-studio>​ ok. have fun at the conference! +
-Sep 26 16:12:49 <​gingercoons>​ I think we need to be done. +
-Sep 26 16:12:52 <​gingercoons>​ I'​m late for work right now +
-Sep 26 16:12:59 <​aiscarvalho>​ i'​ll make a new doodle* +
-Sep 26 16:13:14 <​ms-studio>​ great. talk soon!! +
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